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    EA Sports FIFA The r/FIFA Daily Discussion Thread -- December 26, 2020


    The r/FIFA Daily Discussion Thread -- December 26, 2020

    Posted: 26 Dec 2020 03:06 AM PST

    This thread is the place to go for the posts that crop up in /new that don't necessarily need a full thread for discussion, which include but are not limited to:

    • Subjective questions (such as "Who is better, Player X or Player Y?" or "Which Chemstyle is best on PM R9?")

    • Investment / Trading / Market posts

    • Sharing Squads / Asking for Suggestions

    • Other general gameplay discussion

    • Meta posts & Quick Questions

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    /r/FIFA: The IF Watch Thread (Saturday Edition)

    Posted: 26 Dec 2020 03:06 AM PST

    The TOTW highlights the best performances of the past week from international and club competition around the world.

    Who do you think is going to get a black card and join the Team of the Week?

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    Some of the players that many hate, but with FIFA 13 card design

    Posted: 26 Dec 2020 05:33 AM PST

    FUT Freeze Party Bag SBC

    Posted: 26 Dec 2020 10:03 AM PST

    FUT Freeze party bag pack pulls analysis

    Posted: 26 Dec 2020 04:26 PM PST

    Hello r/FIFA today the FUT freeze party bag was released and I thought I would go through videos of the packs opened ,on different youtubers channels, and see how good the value was of the packs. Currently ,according to futbin, this pack costs 75.8k.

    The following youtubers videos I used data from:

    NerdFire

    FUT FG

    Bateson87

    NerdFire (20 packs)

    Pack number player rating value in coins (ps4)
    1 UCL TOTGS Acerbi (85) 16,500
    2 OTW Van De Beek (83) 31,500
    3 OTW Ferran Torres (81) 31,500
    4 UCL TOTGS Jota (83) 60,000
    5 UEL TOTGS Yazici (84) 11,000
    6 OTW Telles (84) 50,000
    7 TOTGS Elvedi (82) 11,500
    8 OTW Partey (86) 95,000
    9 TOTGS Theo Hernandez (85) 195,000
    10 OTW Telles (84) 50,000
    11 freeze nani (84) 27,000
    12 TOTGS Yazici (84) 11,000
    13 OTW Odegaard (85) 20,000
    14 Freeze Chiellini (89) 189,000
    15 OTW Semedo (83) 56,000
    16 TOTGS Elvedi (82) 11,500
    17 RTTF Promes (84) 155,000
    18 Freeze Rodriguez (83) 17,750
    19 TOTGS Elvedi (82) 11,500
    20 Rulebreaker Lazari (84) 17,000

    Players above pack value Average rating Average value
    4 84 53,388

    FUT FG (5 packs)

    Pack number player (rating) Value in coins (ps4)
    1 UCL TOTGS Jota (83) 60,000
    2 RTTF Kubo (84) 18,250
    3 RTTF Sanson (82) 21,500
    4 UCL TOTGS Morata (84) 14,750
    5 Record breaker Oscar (86) 69,500

    total players above pack value average rating average value
    0 84 36,800

    Bateson87 (10 packs)

    Pack number player (rating) Value in coins (ps4)
    1 Rulebreaker Kamara (83) 56,000
    2 OTW Ake (79) 29,750
    3 Record breaker David Silva (89) 119,000
    4 RTTF Zakaria (86) 219,000
    5 UEL TOTGS Yazici (84) 11,000
    6 UCL TOTGS Morata (84) 14,750
    7 Rulebreaker Calhanoglu (83) 39,750
    8 RTTF Bebou (83) 162,000
    9 OTW Osimhen (82) 15,500
    10 OTW Florenzi (84) 19,750

    total players above pack value Average rating Average Value
    3 84 68,650

    Overall results

    There was in total, out of the 35 packs, 7 players above value meaning there was a 1 in 5 chance of getting something above the value of the pack

    Average rating of all players combined was 84

    And finally the average value of all players combined was 55,379 coins

    Anyway thank you for your time and comment what you think about this

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    Are there any balls in FUT that look like the old Nike Total 90 balls?

    Posted: 26 Dec 2020 09:17 AM PST

    Found an old notebook of some lineups from fut 14. Many of these players are retired. Really took me back to simpler times.

    Posted: 26 Dec 2020 01:35 PM PST

    I honestly feel like the most impressive part of the kids' 300-0 is that he didn't get disconnected once.

    Posted: 26 Dec 2020 07:13 PM PST

    It even happens in live tournaments. What is the secret?

    • this was intended as a joke as my friends and I get disconnected at least once every WL and I thought this was the case for everyone but clearly it isn't. The kid is incredible so not trying to take anything away from that.
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    Freeze 21 Value Analysis and Upgrade Comparison to FUTmas 20 & 19

    Posted: 26 Dec 2020 01:54 PM PST

    The last two years I have posted a value analysis of FUTmas in FIFA 20 and FUTmas in FIFA 19, comparing the Squad Building Challenges from that promotion to the ones available the previous year. The most analytical measurement I could think of was the number of in-game stats added per one thousand coins. While that metric is imperfect, as in-games in certain areas are much more valuable than others, it is a reasonably objective way to compare SBCs from different years.


    To compare cards, I subtracted the cost of the player's NIF from the cost of completing their Freeze or FUTmas SBC to establish the price of the upgrade, then measured that against the increase of in-game stats. Last year there was a widespread perception that FUTmas 20 was a disappointment compared to previous years, yet breaking down the numbers revealed that the median cost per increase actually improved in 20 over 19. Given EA's abandonment of FUTmas in favor of the new Freeze promotion, I was more curious than ever to see how much things had changed.


    In FIFA 19, players like Seydou Doumbia, Jordan Lukaku, Santiago Arias, Lucas Torreira, Patrick van Aanholt, and Denis Zakaria all provided at least 3 in-game stats per one thousand coins, making them good enough to contribute in many squads while being cornerstones for casual players with limited budgets. Reducing the number of Squad Building Challenges from three to two last year affected the number of bargains slightly, but Renato Sanches, Moses Simon, Xherdan Shaqiri, Jeison Murillo, and Marcos Acuna still matched that mark. With Freeze having only one SBC per day, EA somewhat predictably dropped those bargains entirely, as no card even came close to the 3igs/1k threshold.


    In fact, Jose Gaya was the only Freeze SBC with a cost under one hundred thousand coins (Leon Bailey started out just below but ended up well over), and he returned just 2.17 in-game stats per one thousand coins spent. Increased expense was a theme of this promotion, with those other thirteen SBCs all cracking the 100k mark compared with just eight doing so in FIFA 20 and twelve doing so in FIFA 21. Aaron Wan-Bissaka broke the FUTmas / Freeze record for most expensive SBC, coming in at a whopping 366 thousand coins while providing only 73 more in-game stats. Nine days later, Roberto Firmino more than doubled that cost by requiring 831 thousand coins in exchange for 169 more in-game stats.


    In terms of cost per increase, Wan-Bissaka and Firmino didn't quite match Kevin De Bruyne's ignominious record in FIFA 19 of 240 thousand coins for a paltry 44 in-game stats, or 0.183k per igs. But as I noted last year with Moussa Sissoko (0.280), at least De Bruyne would remain an elite card until Team of the Season, unlike Marcus Rashford in FIFA 20 (0.291) or Alexandre Lacazette in FIFA 19 (0.269). The same holds true for Firmino, who is terrible value but clearly elite, whereas Wan-Bissaka is even worse value and arguably isn't even elite right now. As a result, AWB clearly stands out as the worst SBC ever released during Freeze or FUTmas.


    Some might believe that crown was previously held by FUTmas Lukebakio from FIFA 20, but despite that SBC being widely mocked due to its staggering cost of 164 thousand coins, the sizable increase of 262 in-game stats put him near the middle of the pack in terms of value. In fact, Freeze Marquinhos is perceived to be one of the best options from this promotion yet he had nearly the same cost (167k) for nearly the same sized upgrade (267 igs). Only Freeze Gaya and Freeze Lala produced a higher number of in-game stats per one thousand coins than FUTmas Lukebakio.


    Obviously there are other facts to consider when evaluating the Freeze promotion, as the position change for Marquinhos allowed for a perfect link to Neymar while Houssem Aouar received an upgraded weak foot, boosting their appeal significantly beyond what IGS/1K would reflect. Despite the additional value and uniqueness associated with the Freeze Squad Building Challenges, the numbers conclusively demonstrate that this promotion was substantially more costly than FUTmas. Fewer SBCs and more expensive SBCs mean that EA was definitely playing Scrooge instead of Santa this year.


    FIFA 21 Freeze

    Name Face Increase Cost (SBC - NIF) + In-game stats IGS/1k coins IGS/Face
    Jose Gaya 3 64k 139 2.172 46.3
    Kenny Lala 6 121k 220 1.818 36.7
    Marquinhos 2 167k 267 1.599 133.5
    João Victor 9 151k 235 1.556 26.1
    Adama Traoré 5 206k 295 1.432 59.0
    Houssem Aouar 5 116k 163 1.405 32.6
    Cristian Ansaldi 7 129k 174 1.349 24.9
    Leon Bailey 4 113k 129 1.142 32.3
    Matteo Politano 4 140k 145 1.036 36.3
    Konrad Laimer 3 149k 123 0.826 41.0
    Jesús Navas 2 139k 86 0.619 43.0
    Serge Gnabry 3 221k 132 0.597 44.0
    Robert Firmino 2 831k 169 0.203 84.5
    Aaron Wan-Bissaka 2 366k 73 0.199 36.5

    FIFA 20 FUTmas

    Name Face Increase Cost (SBC - NIF) + In-game stats IGS/1k coins IGS/Face
    Renato Sanches 9 39k 213 5.462 23.7
    Moses Simon 9 52k 271 5.211 30.1
    Xherdan Shaqiri 2 14k 66 4.714 33.0
    Jeison Murillo 5 48k 154 3.208 30.8
    Marcos Acuna 5 45k 143 3.178 28.6
    Hirving Lozano 2 28k 81 2.893 40.5
    Youcef Atal 7 87k 211 2.425 30.1
    Goncalo Guedes 2 33k 75 2.273 37.5
    Edinson Cavani 1 18k 32 1.778 32.0
    Dodi Lukebakio 9 164k 262 1.598 29.1
    Ante Rebic 5 101k 153 1.515 30.6
    Kevin Malcuit 6 130k 160 1.231 26.7
    Arturo Vidal 2 64k 66 1.031 33.0
    Kai Havertz 3 98k 93 0.949 31.0
    Inaki Williams 2 71k 63 0.887 31.5
    Axel Witsel 1 40k 32 0.800 32.0
    Luka Modric 2 98k 69 0.704 34.5
    Davinson Sanchez 2 70k 43 0.614 21.5
    Ferland Mendy 5 296k 143 0.483 28.6
    Nabil Fekir 3 189k 90 0.476 30.0
    Douglas Costa 2 125k 51 0.408 25.5
    Marcus Rashford 2 268k 78 0.291 39.0
    Moussa Sissoko 3 314k 88 0.280 29.3

    FIFA 19 FUTmas

    Name Face Increase Cost (SBC - NIF) + In-game stats IGS/1k coins IGS/Face
    Seydou Doumbia 5 17k 171 10.06 34.2
    Jordan Lukaku 4 19k 146 7.68 36.5
    Santiago Arias 4 19k 139 7.32 34.8
    Lucas Torreira 4 30k 138 4.6 34.5
    Patrick van Aanholt 6 40k 170 4.25 28.3
    Denis Zakaria 4 28k 119 4.25 29.75
    Bruma 3 29k 86 2.97 28.7
    Marcelo Saracchi 6 64k 182 2.84 30.3
    Emiliano Rigoni 4 51k 121 2.37 30.25
    Sami Khedira 2 35k 46 1.31 23
    Andres Iniesta 1 26k 32 1.23 32
    Leon Bailey 2 55 67 1.22 33.5
    Mario Balotelli 2 58 67 1.16 33.5
    Manuel Akanji 4 100 115 1.15 28.75
    Daniel Wass 2 57 62 1.09 31
    Mateo Kovacic 2 74 72 0.973 36
    Wilfried Zaha 2 80 69 0.863 34.5
    Alejandro Gomez 2 80 66 0.825 33
    Antonio Valencia 2 84 61 0.726 30.5
    Isco 2 58 41 0.707 20.5
    Marcus Rashford 3 133 90 0.677 30
    Jose Callejon 2 110 67 0.609 33.5
    Dele Alli 2 110 65 0.591 32.5
    Thiago Silva 2 90 51 0.567 25.5
    Coutinho 2 105 48 0.457 24
    Rodrigo 2 117 53 0.453 26.5
    Blaise Matuidi 2 129 54 0.419 27
    Jérôme Boateng 2 140 50 0.357 25
    Roberto Firmino 2 146 50 0.342 25
    Heung Min Son 2 199 65 0.327 32.5
    Alexandre Lacazette 2 175 47 0.269 23.5
    Kevin De Bruyne 2 240 44 0.183 22
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    Anyone else not packed a single good card so far?

    Posted: 26 Dec 2020 03:43 PM PST

    Best pull has been Carlos Soler inform (19k), meanwhile my bro has opened maybe the same amount of packs and pulled Ronaldo, Mane and numerous other high rated cards and informs. It's not even like one big pull out of no where - his account seems to regularly pull high rated players out of packs, where mine regularly gets shit on. Not even jealous omegaLul

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    Who did you pack? A party bag megathread

    Posted: 26 Dec 2020 10:15 AM PST

    Rulebreaker Kamara for me.

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    Showdown SBC Requirements

    Posted: 26 Dec 2020 10:01 AM PST

    CB decides he wants to be GK, switches mid game

    Posted: 26 Dec 2020 06:53 PM PST

    It's that time of the week again. Anders is now 330-0

    Posted: 26 Dec 2020 07:56 PM PST

    Elite 2 player, fed up, frustrated at the sheer lack of control I have over the outcome of some games.

    Posted: 26 Dec 2020 03:57 PM PST

    What can you do when you're making next to no mistakes but find yourself 4-0 down to a corner, a free kick, and other deflected crap. When someone is through on goal and I time the slide perfectly, do I get the animation where my player takes the ball clean or do I get the animation where he just half heartedly goes into it before pulling out. I'm just severely fed up, hit 26 so many times, keep losing to bang average players because of complete nonsense. I've beaten some of the best players and then lose to absolute garbage cans. Games god awful.

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    Can anyone locate the missing Icon SBCs?

    Posted: 26 Dec 2020 10:25 AM PST

    Now we have none at in the SBC part and it's been over a month since any were last released.

    What's actually going on?

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    We either need a duplicate untradable pile or prevent us from packing duplicates like in PES

    Posted: 26 Dec 2020 09:35 PM PST

    I'm sick of putting higher rated players in shitty SBC's lads

    EA need to address this issue since they insist on making everything untradable now

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    I really hate how much connection influences the gameplay

    Posted: 26 Dec 2020 05:16 PM PST

    Usually, most games are affected by connection in very straightforward ways. There is maybe a bit of lag or occasional stutter

    Bad connection in Fifa is a whole different beast. It affects not only your player's responsiveness when you are controlling them but every single aspect of the game. Runs, timing, outcomes of tackles, everything.

    When I have a smooth connection, everything goes my way. When it's bad, I go on a losing streak. And I am surely not alone seeing how many of you guys go on extensive losing streaks on rivals sometimes. No, you haven't forgotten how to play the game since yesterday, your connection is just shit during that session. It happens way too much that I go on a huge losing streak, lose 250SR in consecutive matches, log off, come back later that same day and win all my games by big margins to go up to the previous SR.

    Connection matters way too much and affects the games in too many ways

    Yes, I play wired and have decent ping most of the time (which makes bad connection even more blatant when it happens)

    This frustrates me too much.

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    Anyone else get super attached to a player and have a hard time letting them go?

    Posted: 26 Dec 2020 12:24 PM PST

    I bought Dybala for 100k at the beginning of the game. He's been phenomenal for me but my team has moved towards the Prem due to some untradeables. I won't use him anymore, even as a substitute, but I also just can't seem to sell him or use him in an SBC.

    Do y'all have a player like this?

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    What the showdown cards could potentially look life if they get upgraded.

    Posted: 26 Dec 2020 12:44 PM PST

    Sad to see this club legends stats reset

    Posted: 26 Dec 2020 09:34 PM PST

    Is it possible to complete the season and get 100K points without playing Rivals ?

    Posted: 26 Dec 2020 08:57 PM PST

    I did a test this season and decided not to play any rivals match and do objectives of friendly and SB only.

    yes it was possible to reach 100K until EA added play rivals matches in sliver objective for week 5 and 6 so still i was able to reach 100K with playing 2 rivals matches only for those silver objective

    maybe this post will be helpful for next seasons for players who doesn't want to play Rivals any more like me

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    While it’s not as good as the freestylers, I found this pretty cool

    Posted: 25 Dec 2020 10:59 PM PST

    Liga NOS Squad Foundation Concepts

    Posted: 26 Dec 2020 02:23 PM PST

    Finally a good snipe! Wanted him so bad and now for 100k less

    Posted: 26 Dec 2020 12:06 PM PST

    What rating would you give yourself?

    Posted: 26 Dec 2020 09:46 AM PST

    I'd probably be a 16 rated player with 15 pace and 10 composure and 10 staminaif I'm generous, I panic whenever I'm being pressed and I can't run more than a few minutes without getting gassed. Just a post departing from usual WL stress and EA complaints.

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